Group: nyc.general
From: "Rosen The Putz"
Date: Sunday, September 09, 2007 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: Anti-Zionist Jews, Are they for real?


"." wrote in message news:fbuidg$km3$1@ ...
> 21 Aug 2007
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> Not all Jews support Zionism - many openly oppose it.

It's all smoke. When push comes to shove the jews all stick together.



>
> There are various Jewish groups which teach that Judaism doesn't support
> the forced creation of a Jewish State (Israel), that Jews were expelled
> from their homeland because of their sins, and that true adherents of the
> Torah must wait for the coming of the Messiah before peacefully returning
> to their Holy Land.
>
> Here are some of their sites:
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> (Neturei Karta)
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> An interesting aspect of these sites is how they discuss the WWII
> Holocaust - an event which lead toward the creation of modern Israel. They
> do talk about how Zionists used the Holocaust and NAZI movement to
> transfer thousands of European Jews into Palestine, but say very little
> about the role those Zionists played in the creation of the NAZI party,
> and the whole war. Their message appears to be:
>
> "Yes, Zionists played a part in the Holocaust, but only a secondary one.
> The German Nazis are responsible for planning and carrying out the
> Holocaust which killed millions of Jews. Zionists took advantage of the
> situation to transfer some of the persecuted Jews to Palestine instead of
> safer countries."
>
> These people must surely be aware of the important missing details in the
> official Holocaust story. Like the part played by International Jewish
> Bankers, Max Warburg and the Rothschilds, in bringing Hitler to power and
> financing the whole NAZI movement. If they were serious about attacking
> Zionism, why don't they mention that?
>
> Disputing details of the Holocaust is illegal in some countries and can
> get you put in jail, as happened with David Irving in Vienna, Austria.
> Nobody wants the same to happen to them. But Irving acts like a white
> supremacist and prosecuting him was easily done with minimal public
> protest.
>
> Could you imagine the Austrian government jailing a group of Orthodox Jews
> for Holocaust denial? It would be an outrage. The public would not easily
> dismiss them as racists. They would instead start searching the internet
> and looking into the claims of those Jews.
>
> Anti-Zionist Jews could easily do this and damage the propaganda of the
> Zionist movement, so why don't they?
> Better yet, they could start exposing the role of Israel in 9/11 and all
> the many recent terrorist attacks. Since they apparently don't like
> Israel, why don't they do this?
>
> In the space of a few years a small group at the French Connection has
> exposed much about Zionism. This has the Zionists worried. By contrast,
> the Jewish anti-Zionist groups are far larger and have been around longer,
> but don't appear to achieve much. And the Zionists are not fearful of
> these groups. Why is that?
>
> Is it possible that Zionists are secretly behind them? Crypto Jews change
> their name and religion and pretend to be someone else. How difficult
> would it be for a Zionist Jew to pose as a non-Zionist Jew? No name or
> religion changes needed - it would be very easy! So we should consider the
> likelihood that Zionists have infiltrated these groups and are now running
> them.
>
> It's also possible that these groups were originally setup by Zionists to
> act as a false opposition. Ordinary Jews opposed to Zionism would then
> join these groups, giving them their names and money. The groups would
> then set out to make little progress in defeating Zionism while feeding
> deception to their supporters.
>
> Perhaps these groups are genuine but are afraid to fully expose the
> Zionist operation because they fear outright rejection from all Jewish
> persons. Or perhaps they don't wish to be too harsh toward their fellow
> Jews, even though they are Zionists. After all, Jews are expected to stick
> together.
>
> None the less, people who join these groups should ask themselves what
> they are really joining. More importantly they should properly investigate
> their leadership for signs of disloyal or deceptive behavior.
>
> These groups can be a great assistance toward exposing Zionist crimes...
> if they really want to. Let's hope they do.
>
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