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>> "mark" wrote in message
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>>> So, when you say the moral purpose of the TEN commandments how do you
>>> maintain such assertion for their entirety...?
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>> Very easily! Take some advice and before you spout off about morality
>> and
>> morals make sure you know what the words mean. If you check with the
>> Oxford English Dictionary, or if you do not have one check online, you
>> will find that "morality" is a code of conduct held to be authoritative
>> in
>> matters of right and wrong, whether by society, religion, philosophy or
>> individual conscience.
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> Yes. The definitions are, of course, inclusive... not exclusive.
> Therefore morality in the apparent sense of your post {here it is..]
>
> "Christians do not claim to have invented the Ten Commandments do they?
> And
> does their religious origin degrade their moral purpose?"
>
> ..........infers that 'christians' ("their" and "their" ) have a 'moral
> purpose' .
>
> Of course, your previous assertions that the ten commandments are a
> tenet (my word) of morality is incorrect.
> As I have shown you, almost half have nothing to do with morality
> whatsoever. Attempts to draw wider, generic description of the term
> *morals* fails in all respects.
> Let us be clear, the first four of the posted 'ten commandments'
> [....of course, there were more but let's not confuse you at this point]
> are self referencing religious statements that are not, and could not be
> seen as moral assertions by any reasonable, clear thinking and
> intelligent person.
>
>>"Morality" therefore is not absolute,
>
> Of course morality is not absolute...... that is the ultimate antipathy
> to fundamental evangelicals.
>
>
>>your idea of
>> morality can be totally different to mine as Christian morality is from
>> Islamic morality.
>
> Phwewh.
> We both understand, at least, that morality is not an absolute notion.
>
>>Hence, all Ten Commandments are included in the
>> Christian morality code.
>
> Well of course they are.
> But moral...... they are not.
> [by the way, where can I find further reference to this.."Christian
> morality code"....?]
>
>>You may not subscribe to them, that does not make
>> them less moral from a Christian perspective.
>
>
> Oh please.
> Whether *we* subscribe to them or not has no relevance to the
> understanding of the tenet.
> You are confused entirely by the notion of morality and the notion of
> christian assertion of morality.
> Self referential tenets are not moralistic just because the OED
> describes morality in a generic, all encompassing criteria and into
> which you unrealistically attempt to apply such definition, they are
> not moralistic, simply, because they do not address moral issues.
> Simple really.
>

Complete goobledegook. You are all over the place. Morality means what the
moraliser says it means. Even you agree that morality is not absolute.
Atheists may have a different set of morals than "believers" but they both
have a set of "morals", just different ones. You really should open your
mind, your set of morals are not the definitive ones, they are just yours.
Evidently tolerance is not one of them.

And if you think the OED's definition is wrong then write to them and put
them right. They will be most grateful.

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