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>> Complete goobledegook. You are all over the place. Morality means what
>> the moraliser says it means. Even you agree that morality is not
>> absolute.
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> The argument becomes ever more nonsensical.
> If I say to you, for example, "don't cross the road when the lights are
> green"...... that is not moralistic.
> It may well be a social instruction but morals it ain't.

That's debatable. If the law says don't drink when you drive, not only is
it a "social instruction" but it is morally wrong to do so as it could
result in an innocent person being killed.

Some may consider judicial execution for murder morally right, others may
take the opposite view.

Your view of morality is blinkered and arrogant and derives from your own
subjective perspective. You are incapable of empathy with anyone with a
view contrary to your own.

> And neither are the first four tenets of the ten commandments.
> You are arguing pedantic nonsense.

So, I use the OED definition of "morality" and you do not even have a
definition, just airy fairy waffle, but it is me who is pedantic. That
figures, logic is not your strong point is it.

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>> Atheists may have a different set of morals than "believers" but they
>> both have a set of "morals", just different ones. You really should
>> open your mind, your set of morals are not the definitive ones, they
>> are just yours. Evidently tolerance is not one of them.
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> Rewind.
> You asserted the ten commandments were associated with moral values.
> I explained and showed you they were, [..and are ] not.
> I have not asserted anything whatsoever to do with *my* morals.

I asserted that the Ten Commandments were associated with moral values
*from a Christian perspective*. What is it about that you do not
understand? That you think they are not moral values because they do not
fit into your definition of morality is not relevant.
Rewind: morality is an authoritative code of conduct defined by a
particular group. Its source and/or general acceptance are irrelevant.

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>> And if you think the OED's definition is wrong then write to them and
>> put them right. They will be most grateful.
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> Oh dear.
> If the concept of understanding wide generics and applying them to
> specifics is beyond your ability then I can offer little extra to
> assist.

That is specious waffle! You seem incapable of appreciating that social
groups other than your own may see morality totally differently, an
intolerant and illiberal position infinitely more dangerous to social
cohesion than Carole T's musings will ever be.