On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:26:28 -0700, joe-public1@ wrote:
>> I did not say that I had "bulk downloaded" or that I had done so
>> overnight. I stated quite truthfully that I had accessed those
>> newsgroups some years previously on two occasions for a *total* time
>> (as verified by the log files) of an hour or so, and downloaded a few
>> images from them to see what the fuss was about after having read an
>> article about child porn horrors on te Internet. The subject of
>> Internet CP was not big news in those days, and that was the first
>> article I had seen of that nature. I also stated that I saw nothing
>> of an illegal nature in the sample I had seen - which was verified by
>> a contemporary listing of images from those groups by Mr Bates which
>> had no images of children that were sexual in nature. I do not
>> believe (and still do not) that sexual images of children are readily
>> available on newsgroups or anywhere else on the Internet. It's all
>> about emotive names that gets the media (and evidently juries)
>> excited.
>Yes, he downloaded all the pictures that were available from the same
>newsgroups that had been accessed by your computer and then told us
>how many pictures of children he had obtained from each newsgroup and
>how many were naked children - We were surprised that he chose / was
>allowed to do that.
The prosecution had made the allegation - with no evidence to back it
up - that the newsgroups in question containd child pornography. You
believe that we should be forced to take their unsubstantiated word
for it? The statement was proven to be wrong - which begs the
question as to where they obtained the false information that allowed
them to make such an allegation. Or did they simply make it up,
thinking, as you appear to think, that nobody would dare / should be
permitted to challenge them on it?
>I also recall that he told us that he had downloaded over 50 pictures
>of naked children from the newsgroup but that
>he did not consider them to be of a sexual nature.
Congratulations, a post in which you have got all the facts (at least
the ones I remember) 100% correct. And which simply repeats what I
have just stated, and what I have said all along.
--
Cynic