uk.people.disability

"Palindrome" wrote in message
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> Cyberwraith wrote:
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>>> On 11 Sep, 11:47, "********" <***...@ > wrote:
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>>>>> On 10 Sep, 11:47, "********" <***...@ > wrote:
>>>>>>> I had a disabilty access issue with a UK based supermarket here in
>>>>>>> Ireland just last week and found that their web site had a comments
>>>>>>> and complaints section, I filled it out and was very surprised by
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> fast and efficient way they dealt with it. It might not apply to all
>>>>>>> supermarket chains but in this case Tesco, for them it was, deserve
>>>>>>> praise.
>>>>>> Well your Tesco must be better than mine here in Dundee. I was there
>>>>>> the other day and couldnt get a parking space in the disabled bays
>>>>>> because they were all taken and not one car had a blue badge. To make
>>>>>> matters worse on of the cars parked was a police car! If the police
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> violate the rules then what hope have we got?
>>>>> Shopping at 3am, often find a police car or two in the disabled bays.
>>>>> I've absolutely no objection if they are there on an emergency call -
>>>>> close space to door, quicker inside and all that.
>>>>> Never seen them on emergency inside a supermarket at 3am though.
>>>>> This wasn't 3am though it was 11am and the place was really busy with
>>>> people with badges struggling to park.- Hide quoted text -
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>>> Ah, new information.
>>> Yes, often see people with badges struggling to park. Few thousand
>>> blue badges within travelling distance in my area, about 20 town
>>> centre disabled bays.
>>> To be fair to the local council (who tend to make big, big mistakes)
>>> the traffic staff tend to be on the ball about blue badges.
>>> Occasionally see they've ticketed someone for parking in the wrong
>>> place.
>>> BB holders as much as anyone - there are places we can't park too,
>>> despite what some people believe.
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>>> Penalty notices tend to discourage most from getting more. Though I
>>> have seen a couple of cars with several notices in a year.
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>>> I don't know of any simple way of making sure people don't misuse our
>>> bays, same as some misuse the badge they have.
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>>> Martin <><
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>> How about the American option? Illegal use of a disabled bay by able
>> bodied people is immediate loss of driving licence.? Just my tuppence
>> worth. This is a subject I feel very strongly about.
> I would suggest that you could bring in the death penalty and people would
> still do it - because the chance of being caught is so negligable.
> (plus the jury wouldn't convict under those circumstances...)
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> I would suggest that what is needed is an RFID chipped badge - that gets
> rid of the duplicated copies and theft of badges - a stolen one would be
> rendered useless, within hours of being reported, simply by being removed
> from the database.
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> Plus require supermarkets and other off-road parking to have a
> barrier-protected disabled parking area, with the exit automatic barriers
> having a transponder sensing the badge.
>
> Finally, if the badge holder is not present when a traffic warden/ police
> office/ cso checks the car, one "point" will be added to the badge. After
> 2 points in any calendar month, the badge is deactivated for the remainder
> of the month.
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> That would stop most of the abuse, IMHO.
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> Sue

Good idea I suggested that the BB should be all part and parcel of the road
tax disc also, cut down on paperwork saving the planet in the process.
Considering the various councils now employ private traffic wardens how
about having the wardens do a sweep as they pass a car park? They would
nearly always find someone. I know that private car parks are exempt? from
traffic wardens but why. Also I do seem to recall a few years back that this
had actually been put into action, am I mistaken? Another thought,
considering the government wish folk off the road 'to save the planet'
anyone found with a dodgy BB should loose licence for life. Make it a damned
unattractive option. However it does seem that a lot of mis-use by dodgy
BB's are actually the very lawyers in the city! When an MP parks openly in a
disabled bay at a railway station what chance has anyone got of being done,
he did not even display a badge.