Group: uk.people.disability
From: "mart2306@hotmail.com"
Date: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: illegal use of a blue badge.

On 11 Sep, 23:37, Palindrome wrote:
> Cyberwraith wrote:
> > wrote in message
> >news: @ ...
> >> On 11 Sep, 11:47, "********" <***...@ > wrote:
> >>> "mart2...@ " wrote
> >>> innews: @ :
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> >>>> On 10 Sep, 11:47, "********" <***...@ > wrote:
> >>>>>> I had a disabilty access issue with a UK based supermarket here in
> >>>>>> Ireland just last week and found that their web site had a comments
> >>>>>> and complaints section, I filled it out and was very surprised by
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> fast and efficient way they dealt with it. It might not apply to all
> >>>>>> supermarket chains but in this case Tesco, for them it was, deserve
> >>>>>> praise.
> >>>>> Well your Tesco must be better than mine here in Dundee. I was there
> >>>>> the other day and couldnt get a parking space in the disabled bays
> >>>>> because they were all taken and not one car had a blue badge. To make
> >>>>> matters worse on of the cars parked was a police car! If the police
> >>>>> can
> >>>>> violate the rules then what hope have we got?
> >>>> Shopping at 3am, often find a police car or two in the disabled bays.
> >>>> I've absolutely no objection if they are there on an emergency call -
> >>>> close space to door, quicker inside and all that.
> >>>> Never seen them on emergency inside a supermarket at 3am though.
> >>>> This wasn't 3am though it was 11am and the place was really busy with
> >>> people with badges struggling to park.- Hide quoted text -
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> >>> - Show quoted text -
> >> Ah, new information.
> >> Yes, often see people with badges struggling to park. Few thousand
> >> blue badges within travelling distance in my area, about 20 town
> >> centre disabled bays.
> >> To be fair to the local council (who tend to make big, big mistakes)
> >> the traffic staff tend to be on the ball about blue badges.
> >> Occasionally see they've ticketed someone for parking in the wrong
> >> place.
> >> BB holders as much as anyone - there are places we can't park too,
> >> despite what some people believe.
>
> >> Penalty notices tend to discourage most from getting more. Though I
> >> have seen a couple of cars with several notices in a year.
>
> >> I don't know of any simple way of making sure people don't misuse our
> >> bays, same as some misuse the badge they have.
>
> >> Martin <><
>
> > How about the American option? Illegal use of a disabled bay by able bodied
> > people is immediate loss of driving licence.? Just my tuppence worth. This
> > is a subject I feel very strongly about.
>
> I would suggest that you could bring in the death penalty and people
> would still do it - because the chance of being caught is so negligable.
> (plus the jury wouldn't convict under those circumstances...)
>
> I would suggest that what is needed is an RFID chipped badge - that gets
> rid of the duplicated copies and theft of badges - a stolen one would be
> rendered useless, within hours of being reported, simply by being
> removed from the database.
>
> Plus require supermarkets and other off-road parking to have a
> barrier-protected disabled parking area, with the exit automatic
> barriers having a transponder sensing the badge.
>
> Finally, if the badge holder is not present when a traffic warden/
> police office/ cso checks the car, one "point" will be added to the
> badge. After 2 points in any calendar month, the badge is deactivated
> for the remainder of the month.
>
> That would stop most of the abuse, IMHO.
>
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> Sue- Hide quoted text -
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Ummm....when my car is parked up I'm never with it. When I come back
to the car (or come to it if being picked up there), thats when I'm
with the vehicle.

Martin <><